GTK+ Forums Discussion forum for GTK+ and Programming. Ask questions, troubleshoot problems, view and post example code, or express your opinions.    FAQ   Search   Memberlist   Usergroups   Register   Profile   Log in to check your private messages   Log in  Thanks          GTK+ Forums Forum Index -> Website News, Suggestions, and Feedback Author Message irvm Familiar Face Joined: 21 Sep 2005 Posts: 12 Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:07 pm    Post subject: Thanks Thanks, Micah, I think a forum like this is needed. I'm one of those who does not think the gtk-list is sufficient. I have written gtk bindings for two interpreted languages (Euphoria and Qu) because I absolutely hate programming in C. GTK is actually very easy to use, it's often peripheral issues related to compiling, linking, makefiles, etc. that cause new users problems. Unfortunately, people on the gtk-list seem to be C-centric and rather abrupt in answering questions. So I hope this forum becomes popular. It could help lots of us who aren't programming gurus. Regards, Irv Back to top Micah Carrick Never Seen the Sunlight Joined: 21 Sep 2005 Posts: 404 Location: Portland, OR USA Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:38 pm    Post subject: Hey thank you for the feedback. Yes, I'm enjoying GTK quite a bit and find that it is pretty easy once you get over that beginner's hump. If you type in, for example, "PHP Forum" or "PHP Sample Code" in to google, you'll find a zillion results, however, GTK is minimal by comparison. I find this strange considering how easy it is to create sexy GUIs for windows or Linux. Most of what I've been stumped by I have resolved by reading through the source code of other open source work. However, it takes me quite a while to interpret other people's code since I have to look up just about every function in the API documentation. Just thought it'd be nice to have a place where people can quickly get thoughts and debates on technique and tricks and problems. What exactly is Euphoria and Qu? Back to top MacSlow Familiar Face Joined: 21 Sep 2005 Posts: 17 Location: Aachen, Germany Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 4:47 pm    Post subject: Micah Carrick wrote: I find this strange considering how easy it is to create sexy GUIs for windows or Linux. Indeed... especially when using things like glade/gazpacho with libglade and friends, UI-development (and maintainance!) becomes almost a "no-brainer". Then following HIGs is also much less of a burden! Best regards... MacSlow Back to top irvm Familiar Face Joined: 21 Sep 2005 Posts: 12 Posted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 6:41 pm    Post subject: Micah Carrick wrote: ... What exactly is Euphoria and Qu? Both are very fast interpreted languages. Euphoria has been around for several years, Qu is brand-new, and still in development. Both use clear english syntax without excess 'line noise'. Qu is my current favorite because it can do OOP, which means it was easy to convert GTK 'widgets' into Qu 'objects', which eliminates all that nasty type-casting that has to be done when programming in C. There are a couple of example GTK programs on my web page: http://databrook.com/users/irvm/ Despite being interpreted, both languages are fast enough that there is no perceived difference when running normal GUI programs written in them or in C, and they beat other languages such as Python and Ruby: http://janus.centrin.net.id/%7Emarc/performance.html Regards, Irv Back to top ZuLuuuuuu Familiar Face Joined: 20 Dec 2007 Posts: 6 Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 12:51 am    Post subject: GTK project does not have "attractive" web sites for a reason that I don't know. You can look at some different open source projects' web sites like wxWidgets, Mono, GNUstep, Python to compare with GTK main page. My god, how ugly it is... A new user can think even that GTK project does not continue any more by looking that web site. Especially, a Graphical User Interface library should have an attractive design, I think. Let's hope that this forum will be a step forward to change this situation :) Back to top openldev Never Seen the Sunlight Joined: 21 Sep 2005 Posts: 372 Location: State College, Pennsylvania Posted: Sun Dec 23, 2007 1:05 am    Post subject: There's been a redesign of the site by Martyn Russel going on for the past few months. I think they're on the third draft. Back to top rdo Familiar Face Joined: 11 Dec 2007 Posts: 10 Location: Burleson, TX Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 4:36 pm    Post subject: Yes, thanks for a great place to learn about GTK! Back to top Display posts from previous: All Posts1 Day7 Days2 Weeks1 Month3 Months6 Months1 Year Oldest FirstNewest First         GTK+ Forums Forum Index -> Website News, Suggestions, and Feedback All times are GMT Page 1 of 1 Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2005 phpBB Group CodeBB 1.0 Beta 2 Protected by Anti-Spam ACP