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PostPosted: Wed Sep 21, 2005 2:07 pm 
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Thanks, Micah, I think a forum like this is needed.
I'm one of those who does not think the gtk-list is sufficient.

I have written gtk bindings for two interpreted languages
(Euphoria and Qu) because I absolutely hate programming in C.
GTK is actually very easy to use, it's often peripheral issues
related to compiling, linking, makefiles, etc. that cause new users problems.

Unfortunately, people on the gtk-list seem to be C-centric and
rather abrupt in answering questions. So I hope this forum becomes
popular. It could help lots of us who aren't programming gurus.

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Irv


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Hey thank you for the feedback. Yes, I'm enjoying GTK quite a bit and find that it is pretty easy once you get over that beginner's hump. If you type in, for example, "PHP Forum" or "PHP Sample Code" in to google, you'll find a zillion results, however, GTK is minimal by comparison. I find this strange considering how easy it is to create sexy GUIs for windows or Linux. Most of what I've been stumped by I have resolved by reading through the source code of other open source work. However, it takes me quite a while to interpret other people's code since I have to look up just about every function in the API documentation. Just thought it'd be nice to have a place where people can quickly get thoughts and debates on technique and tricks and problems.

What exactly is Euphoria and Qu?

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Micah Carrick wrote:
I find this strange considering how easy it is to create sexy GUIs for windows or Linux.


Indeed... especially when using things like glade/gazpacho with libglade and friends, UI-development (and maintainance!) becomes almost a "no-brainer". Then following HIGs is also much less of a burden!

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Micah Carrick wrote:
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What exactly is Euphoria and Qu?


Both are very fast interpreted languages. Euphoria has been around for several
years, Qu is brand-new, and still in development. Both use clear english syntax
without excess 'line noise'. Qu is my current favorite because it can do OOP, which
means it was easy to convert GTK 'widgets' into Qu 'objects', which eliminates
all that nasty type-casting that has to be done when programming in C.

There are a couple of example GTK programs on my web page:
http://databrook.com/users/irvm/

Despite being interpreted, both languages are fast enough that there is no
perceived difference when running normal GUI programs written in them or in C,
and they beat other languages such as Python and Ruby:
http://janus.centrin.net.id/%7Emarc/performance.html

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Irv


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GTK project does not have "attractive" web sites for a reason that I don't know. You can look at some different open source projects' web sites like wxWidgets, Mono, GNUstep, Python to compare with GTK main page. My god, how ugly it is... A new user can think even that GTK project does not continue any more by looking that web site. Especially, a Graphical User Interface library should have an attractive design, I think.

Let's hope that this forum will be a step forward to change this situation :)


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There's been a redesign of the site by Martyn Russel going on for the past few months. I think they're on the third draft.

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Yes, thanks for a great place to learn about GTK!


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